Football Speed Training for Your Team | FBCP S11E04

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[00:00:43] Daniel Chamberlain Welcome back, coaches, this is the Football Coaching Podcast. I am Daniel Chamberlain here with Joe Daniel, as always.

[00:00:48] Joe Daniel Yeah, and this is kind of a I’ve been wanting to do this show for a long time. We’ve talked back and forth about it, so I’m excited to finally get to this episode. So I guess let’s get to this episode.

[00:01:02] Daniel Chamberlain Absolutely. Today, we have a special guest with us. We have Mr. Dale Baskett, a.k.a. The Godfather of Speed. He’s on tonight to talk speed with a developing player speed. So, Dale, you know, some of our listeners may not know who you are. We’ve talked about you a lot, but they may not know the details. So if you don’t mind if you just give us a little introduction about yourself, sir.

[00:01:23] Dale Baskett You said 48 minutes. I’m just teasing here.

[00:01:26] Joe Daniel Maybe I should do this.

[00:01:29] Dale Baskett You read all this. You’re going to go back ten years in a hundred years and

[00:01:33] Joe Daniel 40 years speed training experience.

[00:01:36] Dale Baskett And let’s let’s not get too deep on it.

[00:01:39] Joe Daniel Dale, am I right? You were the first hired speed coach in the NFL? Well, somewhere around that.

[00:01:48] Dale Baskett That’s an interesting comment because I was the first speed coach in America, ever to ever do any speed training other than track and field, which, you know, that’s where it all originated to begin with long time ago. But I don’t know about that question. That’s a great question. Hmm. I was pretty early, I would say, because it was in the mid 80s when I was first brought in and there weren’t a lot of there were not even actually in the NFL. At that point, your strength coaches were not all in everywhere. They were just starting to come in and being hired. And so it was was about. I don’t even think half the teams had strength coaches when in mid 80s and people don’t realize that sometimes. I was fortunate enough, as you’re aware, that I wrote for a football magazine.

[00:02:34] Joe Daniel American Football Monthly

[00:02:35] Dale Baskett About 11 years and and I actually did a history of speed training, which was a two parter, was pretty good. But I went back and alluded to this fact that in the mid late 70s is when, you know, started speed training boy adeptly at Nebraska, and that’s where speed training, whenever they’re lifting and that’s they didn’t even lift in college. And in the latter 80 1870s, people don’t get that a lot which haven’t been around forever, not in the football world. No, but obviously in 78, I started with speed and rank, so it was right there on that same cusp give or take about two or three years. But what he did and I might add, we’re on it. He actually got weight training introduced in Nebraska. And it was a test, meaning the guy I think had a guillotine he had bought. And he said, Your head’s going in. And if this doesn’t work, yeah, he was really pretty, pretty curt with him.

[00:03:30] Joe Daniel Football was serious, and in Nebraska back in the day.

[00:03:35] Daniel Chamberlain That’s a that’s a different type of job security right there.

[00:03:38] Dale Baskett That’s right. And the big red man

[00:03:40] Daniel Chamberlain You will do your job or

[00:03:42] Joe Daniel Yeah. Now, the only conference where they have a guillotine is the SCC. Everybody else? Yeah, that’s the only one.

[00:03:47] Dale Baskett But actually, he was pretty much heavily under pressure. But he’s it’s going to work. And he was, by the way. It wasn’t a weak guy other than he was a track. It was, I think it was a pole vaulter. He didn’t play football, but he knew that weights was missing in that sport because I’ve been lifting in track and field for a long time. Way before Football Insider, they thought they should. And the reason they didn’t was because, you know, they’re worried. Everybody get muscle bound, say, Oh, you’re going to get muscle bound and then you won’t be a very good athlete. You can’t lift. And that was a big deal back then. People in coaching believe that

[00:04:21] Joe Daniel It’s still a point of resistance. I think it’s probably I’m not in that world, obviously, but I know until very recently at least, it was still a major point of resistance in basketball, probably in baseball, in some respects. I mean, outside of football, it was still a major. I remember our and this is ten now, probably fifteen years ago. I remember our girls tennis coach at the high school that I was that wanted his tennis players to get involved in our weight program. And they did. And this was a really, really successful program. They won lots of championships and that was like kind of unheard of. Even then was that the women’s tennis was getting involved in weights.

[00:05:01] Dale Baskett Yeah, and it’s interesting. We kind of went from my background over to that. But quite honestly, my background started in that era, in that particular phase of of understanding, if you will, which there wasn’t much out there, but there wasn’t much in the way it was the thing. And I I think that what got me picked on it and where I started was I was coaching at a community college in both football and it was a head track coach and offensive coordinator in football at this time. And I had some football guys come over and say, Coach, can you work with us in sprints after speed after practice? No. Yeah, I guess so, because there were nobody worked. With football speed back then or any sport was paid for that matter. And so I said, Yeah. So I did it, and pretty soon several guys came, came out and it started to mushroom. Everybody wanted to come after practice. I’ve got them. They’re getting better. Then this is why I got into it. I went. Where do you go? If you want to get fast and you don’t play, you don’t run track well, you can run back unless you can run and you go out there. It’s futile. So the point is, that’s the green light that started it all for me. And and the rest, as they say, is kind of history. But within a couple of years of that, I was starting to get a ton of people on the periphery side wanting to be trained, and it just mushroomed from there. Yeah. Then things happened, and the rest is, as I say, history, but that’s how I got my start.

[00:06:29] Joe Daniel But so I want to kind of give a little background as to why I wanted you to be on the podcast. And our background together absolutely is that, you know, I didn’t I don’t go out. We don’t really go out and look for like cool guys to have on the podcast. So Dale was writing a column for American Football Monthly and for those for Daniel, for somebody who is late into the coaching world? There was a time when coaches bought a actual physical magazine to read to learn about football

[00:07:06] Dale Baskett Back in the Stone Age

[00:07:07] Joe Daniel Yes, and I have an entire big stack of them over here because I cut them all. Never knowing what I need to go back to them. What we were coaching at, at a program that was we knew we had some good athletes. We just we could not get over that hump. We couldn’t. And we were looking for answers and our head coach. You know, we’re seeing these seeing learning about Dale and seeing these articles and never, never hesitant to to reach out, as Dale knows. Bruce Carroll and he reached out to daily call. He told us, he said, I got this guy. He’s going to fly in from California and teach us how to teach our players how to run. What do you guys think? And I think we were all like, Yeah, I think I think we were all kind of like, Well, why not? You know, not we’re we’re kind of stuck right now. And but the thing is, when I think we were all and I’m sure you’ve dealt with this a lot. We were all kind of skeptical like, is this really going to be because remember, we didn’t we didn’t sign up on an online course. We flew Dale out to, you know, across the country for a couple of days of just constant, you know, learning him, you coaching our players, which was incredible in itself. We talked about that at some point, but because, by the way, Dale coaches one hundred kids in a gym and we’re like, What do you need us to do? He said, nothing, stay out of the way. We’re like, he’s about to get eaten alive by these kids. And that is one hundred percent, not what happened. We it was incredible to watch one person coach 100 kids at one time. But the key is we started to learn the thought process behind it and why all of these things and that’s what I want to share with everybody today, learning the thought process that you had in the way that you had thought about this and the fact that it was not about we. We’ve all seen the track guy and, you know, the guy who comes out and he’ll take $5400 from your kid any day, you know, go out on day one and he pulls out the stopwatch and he says, All right, let’s time you one time, and he pulls out the stopwatch and he goes, Oh, five three. And then, you know, he times you again a week later and goes for seven. Wow, look at what a great job I did with you. And it’s like, Well, it was never about 40 times with Dale when you came out, you know, I think I think Bruce finally forced you to teach our kids how to run a 40 time for a combine or something like that. But what mattered was this was all about speed transitioning to the field. There were no fancy pieces of equipment. There was nothing that we had to buy. We needed cones. We needed a gym floor. And and then it was all about how this speed transitioned to the field. So that’s what I want to get into today. This is our very long introduction into this. But why it’s important, why Dale is is the guy to learn from here is that we have a we have a history in that he came in and let me tell you, I don’t know how many games we won. I don’t think we blew the doors off the very next season, anything like that. I can’t I can’t say that eventually with that program turned the corner, and I know Bruce continued to work with it. But and we’ve taken it to other programs and applied it everywhere, and it always makes a huge difference. But the fact of the matter is that very first season week, one day, one first game you saw a difference and you saw a difference, not in the 40 times you saw a difference in the speed on the field. You saw a difference not in how fast a kid was in the. And field, you saw a difference in how a difference in how fast a kid could transition from a lateral run to bursting forward to make a tackle, you saw this from a back held to bursting forward. You saw a difference from a cut and these are the things that matter in football. And that’s why I’m excited to have you on and I’m kind of passionate about this and in that most of the guys out there because you, like you said already, before we turn the mike on, you’re going to be a little bit controversial with this. I’ll be controversial with it, too. Most of the guys out there are trash strength, speed coaches. I’ll just go ahead and say it. They’re not helping. You agree. They’re not helping you. So you can. I was going to say some things that might might get in your getting your crawl a little bit. I’ll do it first. Most of these guys aren’t helping you, so let’s go ahead. And you started with the show, I guess.

[00:11:25] Dale Baskett Yeah, that’s great. Just quickly on my background because we got off on a great tangent there, not just a waste of time tangent, because I know I appreciate your insights coming from you prospectively because you’re in front of a lot of football coaches over a lot of years now. And so and done a great job within your own right. Obviously, with what you’ve done. And I was telling Dan Daniel about that earlier when we were chatting before we get going here and you have you done a great job and you’re to be commended for it. And because I remember when you were starting that back then in the day when I came out and you really hadn’t done it yet, you’re preparing and getting it ready to launch, but the concept sounded terrific, you know? So when I, as I said quickly, and I’ll just give you a quick synopsis here I started what started me and do is a realization that there wasn’t anything for kids to go get faster with. How do you do you don’t? There’s nowhere in the world. Back then, nobody was thinking about that. As I said, that was close to nobody in the NFL, then even had weights. And and in the late 70s, mid 70s, that’s when this whole weight thing started in college started.

[00:12:33] Joe Daniel So it was an all. And by the way, all the way up into maybe even now, but all the way up into at least 10 years ago. The prevailing wisdom was speed is genetics. Yeah, that was always the belief was speed is genetics, and it’s just not true.

[00:12:48] Dale Baskett You talked about how hard it was with, you know, and you crossed a few bridges when you tried to open up with what you were doing. I’m sure the bridges then were this like with the girls in tennis and sort of like, Oh, it’s unheard of. We don’t want to do that. Got to be careful. Oh, you can’t make people faster than you don’t hear that anymore. You don’t hear that weight room is a great thing, either, or it’s obviously proved itself out. But in this day and age, I had to go through that every time I turn raw. I got hired by Chuck Knox of the Seahawks. And in the mid 80s, and when I went, he goes, You can’t go speed up. I held you higher before, you know and coach. And afterwards you wrote in the newspaper, after you sat down with me when it was all done and we videoed everything and had all the stuff, and he saw the before and after and yada yada yada and all the movement changes. Holy mackerel. Is that wow? And he wrote. They interviewed him in the paper, and he said he is not an unbelievable. Things with our team is amazing. In fact, I’ll tell you a quick story aside from that. But what got me into the end of the speed thing was from there, and it took off from there because nobody was really doing it. My competition wasn’t competition. There was none. My competition was what we just talked about. Nobody thought you could. Oh, it’s all about guys. It can listen. And you had to build a football team on genetics in high school. Good luck. I mean, you have to be in the right spot where you got a lot of genetic dudes within the house every year, and there are a few schools like that we know. But that you can’t hang your hat on, that you can’t make that into a program that’s viable for speed every year with what you’re trying to do. It’s impossible. You have to develop it. But going back to Chuck Knox, what was interesting was after I was done, he was so thrilled. He and the GM sat me down for three hours. Literally, we went over all kinds of things. And then he was just pumped up and he said, I want you to meet my staff next week, my coaching staff and I want you to go through everything you went through. And so we did, and there’s about 15 of them, or 12 or 15 guys in there. And we got through and he says, OK, here’s what I want you to do. He said, I want each one of you to make appointments with Coach Bousquet, bring him into your office, sit him down, and I want you to show him all of your drills you like to use by position. And I want to have him refine the movement of those drills. Every one, to be sure, I was in and out of their offices next week and I’m going, Dang, I was like a celebrity. And it wasn’t so much that that was cool. It was kind of it was nice to get by in, you know? Yeah, it’s nice that they were accepted it. But what? What came out of it is what I’m going to go into more today. That’s not there, that in that. Well, by the way, I’m obviously for those that don’t know my background. I had about almost 400. I’ve done traveling through the U.S. with high schools, a lot of them, and I’ve had twenty all pro players in the NFL and I’ve trained and this isn’t for combines. This is training them to be better athletes on their feet. I have six and a half. I was hired by Bear Bryant back in the day by his strength coach while he brought me in. And so I go way back, I go way back and I work with a ton of notable NFL programs throughout the league and have worked with a ton of major universities Ohio States, Alabama, you know, so I’ve got quite a good background. I approved my salt, so to speak. That’s behind me now. What I’m more concerned with now is what you’re concerned with, and that is nuances of what makes people in football speed faster. So starting out with that, I wanted to start with an I know I gave you just a couple of points. What was the first one? We had per speed that you were interested in, Joe.

[00:16:33] Joe Daniel Yeah. So I mean, I think we’ve kind of covered why we need a speed coach. I guess you’re right, Daniel. We’ve I feel like we feel like we’ve hit that like, you need a speed coach because you can make your players. Let me clarify that you need a speed coach because the right speed coach can make your players faster. You probably can. Your strength coach can make your players faster, but you can’t make them run. He can make them faster because their legs are more explosive, right? He cannot make them faster because they’re running better. Running sprints doesn’t make your players faster. It’s just like anything else, and they’ll we’ll talk about this real quick because this is what this is why you need a strength coach, speed coach.

[00:17:16] Dale Baskett Yeah, hold your thought on that. Yes, yes and no. When you say running sprints will not make them faster, if that’s all you do. That’s the wrong wasting time, right? That’s for sure. But yeah, you need to run fast to get fast. But here’s the problem with sprints. Sprints are purely lineal, and that is that’s not going to serve the football team well because everything is from five, 10 and 15 yard increments of motions and movements, and they’re very electric. They’re fast. But when you are talking about Sprint, you’re not talking about 10, five, 15 yard training. You talking about 30, 40 50s or sprints. That doesn’t transfer over well because it’s not specific. So sprints. Yeah, you got to run fast to get fast, but that’s for the combine. Your kids aren’t going to come by, it’s by the truckload. So who cares about combining your levels of high school when you were coaching high school? Not very many people, but they seem to so that that’s the only thing about sprints. Yes, they have a value if you’re concerned about sprinters, develop. But I can tell you right now that movement, speed and quickness and all the other variables, that’s what it’s about. Go ahead.

[00:18:23] Joe Daniel Sorry. But my my big thing with that was not that if you continue to run sprints or anything else for that matter with bad technique, you don’t learn how to run. You won’t get faster. Or at the very least, you will get faster. You will get you will get faster, faster if you if your players learn how to run. And that was what we learn more than anything. And maybe you can talk a little bit about that. The big difference was not. Here’s a program of run five yards, you know? You know, here’s a you’re going to chop your feet for five yards and then you’re going to sprint for five and then you’re going to, you know, it wasn’t that. That’s not the program. It was specific teaching a an athlete how to run, how to feel and and literally hear themselves running and and feel themselves running. And if anybody was around for the sea, not around and still around the sea for the slack, head to the passing mechanics videos where players were learning to. This was this was before I met Dale that this went that I learned this and this was big and football. Was that the quarterback? It was a self correct system still is for the quarterback to learn, to throw. And if his throw was, you know, three inches to the left, he could go, Oh well, it must be because I did this and the whole system, and that’s what is being taught in a manner is that the athlete can is learning in your system how to run and how to correct when they’re running incorrectly.

[00:20:02] Daniel Chamberlain Well, he had a misconception about coaching speed in my first year, and that was number one. Our team was slow, right? And and when we tried to reach out, I just reached out to a friend of mine who was a collegiate track coach. He coached sprinters. And I understand that sprinting coaches can’t. They’re not the end all, be all for your football team. However, when you’re fastest kid is running five flat anything you answered, right? And that was the very first thing I noticed is it wasn’t Hey, let’s line up and run forties and 100s. I can remember high school. We ran one hundred forty one time and I don’t I don’t know why. I don’t know the why. Behind that, I assume it was a. A bit of a gut check, and some like we’re going to we’re going to stress you and develop your muscles, whatever, but the whole first maybe six weeks of this program, I want to say, was like an 18 week program or something was just fundamentals. We’re talking like a Skip’s B Skip C skips. You didn’t. I don’t know that we ran over 20 yards, but it was repetitive motion and it was the extension of the high knees like knee to your chest. It was all these things that you’ve probably done in warmups before, and I almost wonder if it did, if that’s not where those warm ups came from, right? Just trying to build that elasticity in those muscles,

[00:21:10] Dale Baskett But spun off somehow.

[00:21:11] Daniel Chamberlain Yeah, yeah. So reaching out my first time to learn how to coach speed and I didn’t have the money to go bring the guy in, but I just bought into his program and that’s what it was. Just all these fundamentals and that was pretty eye-opening. Like, we’re not going out and sprinting around the track a bunch of times. It’s very minor movements and we’re just learning the fundamentals. That’s right.

[00:21:31] Dale Baskett That’s right. And much like Joe is saying about the weight room and then speed, and this was a different what he was experiencing was different than what he had perceived it might be. And the weight room to get back to that, Joe, you got to get strong and football has to be the kids have to be strong. There’s no question. But what happens is it morphs into the weight room. Does everything you? No, it doesn’t. It’s a tool. It’s a piece of the doggone puzzle. And it gets so over in America because kids have digits and they can see themselves growing. They can see those numbers going up and they get titillated. They get excited, man. Well, I understand that. But let’s take it over here and try to apply this newfound strength that you’ve got and you’re going to have. You need it for football. That kind of contact sport can’t be a winner. You’re going to get hurt and you’re not going to be effective. But does it make you faster and does it make you football faster? No. Is it a blatant answer? No, it does not. And that is a trained skill, and that where Joe is alluding to everything when you’re I always tell people, Look, when you get through doing everything, you want to come see me, I’ll make you faster. Huh? Yeah, I will take the technique and teach you just technique. Joe said. Just cones. And that’s it. Yes, that’s right. You don’t need all of the other things that are in huge supply out there, including all kinds of ideas and drills and drills. And just there’s a million different ways today if you look at it to get faster. And it’s mainly driven by a buck to some degree, which is too bad because people don’t really still to this day know a lot about speed. And I’m talking coaches and I’m talking to these people in general. They, they know, speeds important now. Oh boy, it’s important. Man speed kills speeds, big deal events, but you need to teach people how to run because the weight room is not designed to do that. And when you take all that new strength, then you start to move it. There’s things called cyclic rotation of limbs. Guess what? They turn over a lot to get over to point B, and when they’re a mess like spaghetti, you’re not going to run fast. I don’t care how strong you are. Suppose a point of diminishing return when you’re talking about those cycle movements that one has to go through to run, excuse me, and move. And if those are not technically in place as those cycles turn in, I mean in place like relationship to the body weight when the foot hits and creates a force, where is the upper and lower limb rotation synchronicity wise? Are they working together fighting each other the upper lower? These are really important things because I don’t care how strong you are. It doesn’t matter if those are not top flight and together. And here’s the other thing. There’s many, many rotations taken, and that’s hard when you’re going really fast for the mind, calculate and bring those together. It’s just not going to happen unless you have a technical, progressive system or series in place, as Joe was alluding to, where you put the kids through it to teach these technical functions. Now they become motor habits and motor habits are processed through doing the right type of movement aspects not run on your butt off and spreading your bones out. That ain’t going to do it, Joe. You’re right. But when you have technical function that’s brought together with those limbs and body weight and strikes and forces all together, you’re good. If each one of them per step is together, that’s called part whole part. In other words, the whole is a technical function needs to be that’s scientifically needs to be. Then when you start moving, can you keep that together? Here’s the big problem with speed answer is sort of yes, kind of, even if you have a technical function. The problem is each step keep in mind is getting faster. That means that you’re hitting a moving target when you run. Every control of the body and limbs has is going to be a little different because the acceleration and momentum of the body is moving faster every step that changes the dynamics of control. It’s just going to and, you know, these are things you don’t getting away from that has nothing to do with the weight room, but they’re the key to how well you can maximize your both ability to run fast, be in control and be intense at the same time. It’s a skill, and it has to be learned. It isn’t just a bunch of do these four drills and you can go to the internet. You’ll see them all day long three drills and you can improve your speed instantly. There’s no such thing as instantly, I’m sorry, but people don’t know. They go, Oh wow, why? Because they don’t have to lay out a bunch time. They don’t have to go through a bunch of hoops to make things happen. So it seems easy and we live in that instant gratification world today. And coaches to cop to it as well. Why did they cop to that? Because your time isn’t very, very long in any one thing anymore. You don’t have much of it. So you don’t have much time. What are you going to do? Try to find something that fills that slot in her years of the real problem comes in. What are you going to choose and if your time frame is pretty nil during the week each week and I’m talking in an off season, not just there and only because we know that’s a crime. I mean, you know, you got you can’t be five minutes over. I mean, you don’t have the time to do that and play that game. Well, quite frankly, you don’t in the off season much, either. It’s not like how we got hours we can what I really don’t. Kids have schedules. You have to get in efficient to get it done and you better be using the right thing in that slot. And that’s the big problem that I see that coaches struggle with right now. What do I put in there? Well, it’s simple. Mr. Fred put in the things that are going to get the most mileage out of what you really need to do. So that goes back to what is real speed. It isn’t about holistic bunches of stuff. You know, I’m trying to play that game. The colleges do. They’ve got a whole offseason program. They got nutrition. They got this. They got, yeah, I get it. But your high school guys, and that’s the body of most of the numbers out. There’s only I mean, there’s a lot of colleges, but come on, it’s still time. However, they have months in the off season where they bring in guys that are credentialed. People hire them as strength coaches, et cetera. And they’ve been they’ve been boned up pretty smart nowadays with the Cassius thing and getting their exercise science masters, yada yada. All of that is good. Lovely stuff. I give them praise for that hard work and all those, you know, spaghetti numerals behind their name. Now that’s good, but it breaks down to real simple thing. What are you going to apply in the time you got to get the most mileage inhabit my like, Joe said. More impact that they can see on the field. I get coaches all the time. It’s amazing. We look at films and games and not games and practices, and we see what we’re plugging in with the technical function actually coming right out of it, out of the motions like Joe is describing.

[00:28:34] Joe Daniel And it’s it’s what are the things about the the program as as we put it in with you? It’s not a lot. It’s not a big time commitment. We’re talking like two or three days a week. Correct? Four. And then, you know, kind of working in your practice. In practice, there’s some things that we can do, but a lot of what we’re doing in practice now as people know I do, the 90-minute practice plan is more just confirming that these things are transpiring over. And just like a coaching point that you would use any other time. You know, we talk about, hey, you know, keep, you know, lock in your elbows and these kinds of things and push strike and we’re doing those. But a big part of this. Daniel mentioned the 4100. Yeah, we have to teach speed, teach this technique of running and transition speed that we use in football, where we’re fast and slow and forward and back and all these kinds of things. We have to teach all of this when the player, when the athlete is fresh, because just like if you’re trying to teach an Olympic weightlifting movement, if you’re trying to teach technique in a snatch, you don’t learn that after doing, you know, a marathon and you don’t, you’re once you’re and you can go into all the words here. But once things start to break down and fatigue starts to set in, you’re not learning any technique anymore. No, you’re not learning it at all. So you don’t have a long period of time that you can even do this if you wanted to, right?

[00:30:02] Dale Baskett No, you can’t. And your point is well taken. You know, I think you’ve got to run fast to get fast, but that’s more of a term that came about in track field and speed work, sprint work. And so much of track is a great sport. I love it. I’ve coached a lot. I love coaching track. It’s really, really fun to go to sprints, but they’re way different than football speed necessity based on what you’re just indicating. And so the point you’re saying and you’re right, is that what we need to do is we need to focus in on pure technical application because. That’s what’s going to make things happen because of this simply compounding. That’s the whole difference with running fast and moving in football. And then we talked about and you’ve mentioned this word several times transition. So what I’m doing right now at this current stage of my 44th year of doing this one I’m really focusing in on now is transitional movements, understanding if you’re a coach and or a player, that the moment I displace any momentum that’s created that exact moment that it display that it’s going to displace has to be perfect. Because if it meaning, let’s say you’re running real fast, straight ahead and you planned to go to the right in our cycle mode. Obviously, those limbs are flying. You’re going to hit that ground and is going to project you into that new angle right away. But if the lines think strike limbs, synchronization, all that isn’t together when that happens. And here’s the key. The whole thing when that body weight shifts at that exact moment, it better be in the right position as the foot catches it on the next step. If it isn’t, then you’re going to have to struggle two or three steps to correct it. And the mind will try to correct it. I hear a lot of movement experts to talk about the body and the mind. And you do this and then it’ll catch and it’ll re correct. Well, I’m not waiting for three, correct? I’m sorry. I’m ahead of the jump straight here, folks. I’m going to make sure that it doesn’t displace wrong. Nobody’s teaching that because they don’t seem to understand that. Yes, the body and the mind will react and feel it and kinetically straighten it out. But that doesn’t get you there. You may be half a step short because of the transition, so transition speedo is the big deal. And to me, it’s a big deal. But we work the heck out of different movement changes at different speeds. But we always make sure that the transition was correct technically immediately upon making that first initial save motion and for lack of a better word, it’s a great word for it is when I’m here and then I make a motion as soon as I make that motion that better be accurate and go, Wow, that’s fastidious. No, it’s its lifeblood. Well, because that’s what’s going to make you an athlete on your feet to get there and not lose what you already had going.

[00:33:00] Joe Daniel It’s we spend so much time and Daniel knows from from our different from just my defensive systems and from being deep. We spent so much time on. I got to get this reached step and I got to go this way right now and I can’t take a false step and coaches are willing. Look, coaches are willing to look at false steps and reads and getting the right stuff. And what you’re talking about is another. We’re drilling down to getting my stance right, getting my first step right, getting these things right. But then what you’re talking about is another opportunity to get back a half a step or lose a half a step. That’s right. And when we start breaking all these things down that are all relatively simple, I mean, we’re talking about a speed program that might take you 10 minutes, you know, you know, out of a practice time a couple of times a week, we’re talking about, you know, these little drills and these little stance adjustments and things that you’re getting. You put all this together. All of a sudden, your kids are two steps, three steps faster than they should be.

[00:34:04] Dale Baskett Absolutely. Yeah. And it doesn’t take like you say, time is a huge importance today.

[00:34:11] Joe Daniel It can’t be the things that take an hour and a half because we don’t have it.

[00:34:14] Dale Baskett No, you’d never be able to do it now. You could do it. But what? You can’t do it. I can’t do it. Forget that idea. You could have if it wasn’t on the moon somewhere. But we live in America here and we can’t do it. So anyhow, you’re right on the money. But here’s the thing again is that that it gets back to what a component of transition is. But there’s another one in today’s world. It’s called intensity. Kids are being taught, and not that it’s wrong. Everybody wants those guys with the motor. Oh man, he’s got a motor. You know you’ve been around coach a long time. You’ve heard him say that kids really got a motor man. And that’s like, Oh, they get getting all heated up. I’m going to relax. OK? How about if I make all your guys have a motor? Well, we have the ability to do that, and that is maximizing each person’s potential. They’re not all going around four five four four four four three. No. But if they can move and control themselves and learn what frequency does to the nervous system, it enhances Twitch, by the way. And so if you put us through a series of a lot of frequency stuff with movement displacements in terms of what we call transition movement, then they’re going to start getting good at what high intensity with quick transitional application.

[00:35:31] Joe Daniel And that’s the key. Can we because you said we could do this? Yeah, frequency just real quick. What do you? I mean by frequency when we’re talking about frequency with the running or the movement frequency.

[00:35:43] Dale Baskett Yeah, good question. Frequency is limb speed it and it’s muscle contraction, you know, back in the day, I know out here I live in California, but up the coast of it and L.A. area and beyond. There was some things called fast, which was the name of a dojos that were opening up. And you may remember that that handle it didn’t last long, but everything was about fast twist, fast with fast twitch and you go there, they’re going to work on fast twitch things. And in essence, that’s not a bad idea. But if you don’t have technique with the Twitch, who cares yet again, and that’s what’s happening today. So what I’m talking about when I say frequency is how fast the muscle can contract. Well, it only contracts and you know, you know, you get 100 kids every year or whatever you’re out there with and you go do this quick and easy and very quick. Well, he’s genetically not quick. I don’t care. I will make him quick. So we’re looking for the er in each guy. Not the wow. Then people center their thoughts on the Wow. Oh, I got four guys I remember. No offense, Bruce, like everybody does. He’s not the only one that we got this guy running for three. We got two more. I’m going, That’s good. They’re not the whole team, though, right? My concern is to get everybody quicker and faster within their circumference of their capability. But everybody can get faster. Well, geez, if you raise the index on the whole team, that’s a cool deal. Had a guy out in California, he had he tested all of his players after we went through the offseason training before they went the day before they started practice round, they get all the testing. Guess what? At the end of the season, he tested him again day after the season ended. Guess what? They all part? Holy shit, how do you go through football? Was the speed you get your butt beat up all day long? And I always tell me a world track isn’t very friendly if you are smacking each other and the thing that’s going to make you run fast. Probably going to hurt that sprinter. Pretty good. It’s not the same thing. In fact, they’re very delicate. They can pull and get hurt. Very easy, real high, high threshold that they have to get good. But the point is, yeah, that’s the whole thing, and frequency is great. But it’s been now scientifically proven that if high intensity work and I’m talking to really high intensity can turnover or muscle contraction is practiced at certain intervals and you’ve got to be careful with it because you can light people up too much with it and you set him up for injury. So you have to really be careful with. I’m not just saying go out and do that because now you pull this hammy all day long. No, there’s there’s a prescription for it and how much you will and won’t use. But that’s what frequency is about. But you need you need to use it in order to get the mind and the nervous system to adapt to that fast, quick movement. If it hasn’t been there, how’s that ever going to know what it’s going to feel like to the athlete big guy? Same way they’ve never been taught how to move quicker. If you can get them to learn to Twitch and I can do it, I have drills I put them through. Guess what? They go, Whoa, that feels great. Well, well, I know they’ve never been there. Well, how to adapt to controlling it if they’d never been there?

[00:38:52] Joe Daniel Let’s talk more about that because I think that’s something that most coaches aren’t thinking about. When they’re listening to this episode, they’re thinking about that running back, running away. Now what about a guard being faster on a pole or just in general? What about the big guys, the defensive linemen, the linebackers? What about the offensive linemen? Where does all of this come in for them?

[00:39:16] Dale Baskett Well, good. Good. Great question. And I, you know, I’ve got coaches, some of them that are pretty, pretty keen on wanting me to work with their guys because they know that I get those all those big guys faster and quicker. How is what you’re saying or what do you do? Because they’re all a little different. They’re big, but maybe they’re not big, but they’re mostly thing we’re supposed to be.

[00:39:35] Joe Daniel Yeah, I mean, in general, we don’t care if my left tackle runs or, you know, who cares if he runs a five four or five two or if that’s great. But it doesn’t make me win any football games now.

[00:39:46] Dale Baskett Not at all. So how do you take the body of those linemen to make them quick? You need do, is you? I’ve got a series of different drill things in very short space, high intensity. But here’s the key factor. And then we get two and a half to say, I have to bring this up because the whole world is going to have a heart attack. Feet are the biggest misnomer that there is. What do you mean man, feet is everything? Yeah. f-e-a-t is feat. We’ll take that feat. You know you conquered the feat. Good deal. How about the f-e-e-t? And it’s gospel and now the cancerous ladders? Oh my god. Don’t say that everybody. I go in and and switch them over. They said, We have a ladder. I say I have a ladder burning day out back. It’s a big joke. Ha ha. And when I go back,

[00:40:33] Joe Daniel this is where I got this from everybody. I don’t use ladders for anything.

[00:40:39] Dale Baskett Thanks, and I’m not afraid I’m I’m saying it because here’s the thing the feet do not control the leg cycle. But what do you mean? All those little icky shovels and all that bad stuff? Come on, man. That’s good. Bad. Look at his feet. Look at his feet. His feet are glued to the end of that shank. They don’t move squat. They catch. They support and they stabilize and they balance on. That weight comes down that ankle. No one else is right. Straight up from the foot has excruciating foot pounds. Pressure walking is incredibly off the chart. The pressure that’s in that one area when you apply force to the ground, the more that you apply the force, the more excruciating. So here’s the here’s the problem. Feet are a misnomer, as I indicated, because it’s the knee and hip joint that have to be quick. And that’s that’s quick knee up, quick down. Well, that’s interesting. So what I do is I get coaches to stand and I don’t want to believe them because they don’t want to burn the ladders yet. So I’m telling, OK, stand up and lock. OK, now what I want you to do is I want you to lock your knees standing straight and tall. Now move your feet quick. They laugh. They can’t. You can’t move your foot. If the knee doesn’t, what come up and he doesn’t come up. It has to go down. Whatever comes up is going to go right back down. Your foot has to clear the ground somewhat. Well, the knees are going to move because that joint at the knee that has to bend, it has to bend when it comes off the ground, even if it’s only this much. Does that make sense? So they stand over lock knees. They can’t move. I go quack quack like a penguin. They’re done well. They get the point. Real fast. Hmm. Maybe I’m focusing on the foot. Yeah, it doesn’t move the leg, does it? And you have to move the joint at the knee and the hip. That’s what’s active is those two joints. The foot is really not active. It is because it’s in the end. And I always used this illusion, John. That was the figurative illustration. If you take a whip which has a pretty hard handle and you let it go way out there, however, many feet at the end is kind of a little thin, kind of a little strapping on the end of it, right? Well, what controls that strap? Strapping the crack the whip is the all term goes right here, right here where I got a hole, it’s my wrist. And that shank, that’s what’s called when you snap the wrist. That’s what’s cracking the whip. What do you think happened with the foot? That knee and that hip are quick. And guess what? The foot’s what you see, though, because they don’t look that quick, but they’re actually, in essence, the one that’s generating the quicks. So what you focus on if you really want to be quick is a knee coming up real quick. So I have a what we call extension plants, and that means that when that knee is up, we’re going to get back to the ground real quick because force is what makes you. So I want it when it’s up, I want it back down quick to the ground, and I don’t want to think about my foot being quick. It’s my knee. Well, what turns the leg cycle now is the big dog. Nobody can answer this question unless they’ve been with me and they would know you.

[00:43:48] Daniel Chamberlain Yeah, I got it.

[00:43:51] Dale Baskett I got the answer. Yeah, yeah. And in England,

[00:43:54] Daniel Chamberlain He’s raising his hands like he’s a little bit of a teacher’s pet tonight. Yeah, I had this class before and

[00:43:59] Joe Daniel I’ve had this class.

[00:44:00] Dale Baskett Yeah. Sorry, Joe, I like it and I go back. We’re buds. We know the deal. Here’s the here’s here’s the situation. It’s the arm action that controls the leg cycle, and this is where track will never buy into it. And I’m not saying it works because it does. Anyway, I’ve had a lot of kids when I’ve done this too, but let them do what they’re doing. You said the ace gives the beast gifts. This is the that’s all about machinations in the world. I had one that trained me, two of them for 30 years, and thankfully I was. I sucked them in like a big sponge. They were dry when I was done with them. But the bottom line is, I don’t care how smart you are in biomechanics or exercise science kinetics, it’s all accurate. It’s science, but worse application on all this. Oh, darn it missed that chapter. I was out of school that year. The point of being a smart ass is I hear him on that is that application is the key to take in the science and keeping it and putting it where it needs to be and running because it happened so fast is a hard thing to control. So the point is application is the secret. I, but my mentor used to say, you know, ask any said knowledge for knowledge sake isn’t worth a whole lot. The key word guys break down his application between the knowledge, getting it to the athlete to be able to use it. That’s the key. And he’s right, and it still is today. That’s never changed, Joe. And so what I come in, I look at things like, Oh, now they’re doing that, they’re working hard. They’re trying to do the right things with movements. Take football positions specific specifically. I have. I call now nuances where I just come in and say, no, turn the here or change that there. But let’s go back to the idea of the arm controls the leg. And that’s the key. That’s the golden nugget here. If the oh whatever, whatever the arm does, a leg will automatically follow it and not secondarily right now, instantly. Go ahead. You have a thought,

[00:45:57] Joe Daniel Oh, we’re just about out of time. But I mean, this is the key things here. I think, and I know from you talking about the arm, the shoulder and the locked elbow and everything controlling the yeah, the the the the the turnovers, I guess, or however you want to call it, you’ve got better words than I do. And then the force, the production of that force into the ground, which is the bullet strike and and and those two things together, right? That’s what I learned. More than anything was that these things and then you take them and you’ve got a whole, a whole big set of drills. He’s thought this through everybody. It’s not just like stuff that he’s playing around with a set of drills that apply to. I mean, we sat there and I think, you know, again, we kind of were we had you there and we were trying to, you know, probably trying to catch you like, All right, this is all cool. You know, what about a DV who’s in a backpedal and then he’s got a drive and you’ve got the answer for that. That’s the, you know, the motion and the foot strike and everything. So as we run out of time here, I guess in Daniel, maybe you can come up with better wording for this. The big picture, somebody is listening to this. Why do I need a speed coach? And specifically, why do I need the basket? You know, I think that’s what what we’re kind of want to close out on is why? Why do we need it? I think we’ve had a lot of it.

[00:47:32] Daniel Chamberlain But yeah, yeah, we have. We have had a lot, right?

[00:47:35] Dale Baskett And that there, you know, when you say a lot of it,

[00:47:38] Joe Daniel a little piece of it probably well,

[00:47:41] Dale Baskett Doing the things right. It starts to add up, and I’ve got a lot of things that are supposed to be done right. Oh, how come you’re right? Well, because like Joe just said, I spent a lot of years and time with guinea pig in a lot of things to figure it out with the science behind me that I know what it is. I know what all the line is in the past years and all the talk, and I don’t have to go get a Ph.D. because if I spit out all of that good stuff, that doesn’t mean anything about your kids movement. So the bottom line is strictly going back to the same thing, Joe. All of what you said is correct. And having volume is fine. But here’s the deal you don’t need to, as a coach, have a lot of body. You need to do the right things, which I have, and that’s what I’m doing now. You know, it’s funny how when we get older instead of thinking we got it all figured out, we do. But I’m trying to boil it down to just some nuance, things that are going to make things happen and just do that.

[00:48:37] Joe Daniel You don’t have to be old to start simplifying things. I just want to defend or defend JoeDanielFootball.com. Now, go ahead. Go ahead. No, no.

[00:48:47] Daniel Chamberlain I’m just going to say that’s funny. But as the youth of America in coaching there, you know, I’m in my mid 30s. Yeah, we love showing how smart we are by being complex. So what else

[00:48:59] Dale Baskett Well, no.

[00:49:00] Daniel Chamberlain Unfortunately, we all need to learn that you can simplify very early in your life naturally.

[00:49:06] Dale Baskett But I think the key is now, though, Joe, I’ve got to answer the questions I just gave you some insights to that is I don’t want to to show people about all the volume, like your guide, Bruce. He wanted everything and

[00:49:20] Joe Daniel wanted every single drill. There was every single you want to right now, but

[00:49:24] Dale Baskett you can’t handle everything I got in the box. He goes, I don’t care. I want it anyway. I said, All right, I can’t pay to come back next time anyway. Probably this will be my one-and-done baby. I said, All right, that was stupid for me to give a $10. I did it because, hey, he’s a good guy. He’s persuasive and he had you through no dumb down. So I figure, Well, Joe’s going to do it and he’ll probably pull it off. But anyway,

[00:49:51] Joe Daniel Blockbuster’s the basic stuff

[00:49:53] Dale Baskett But long story short, you don’t need a lot of fancy things. You need right things that are technically going to be useful in implementing those motions and making exact two things right? You don’t want. You don’t have time. That’s one thing. You don’t have time and volume. You need to be understanding enough to be able to use it right. But I’ve taken all the little rights in. They’re easy to use. Now I want to get up, get a grip on those because they aren’t going to spend a lot of time learning anymore. That’s just not the style today. You don’t want to do it and I don’t want any miracle crap. And I’m not saying that. I think you pointed it. What I have is is the real deal. And it is. It’s based on science, everything we do. That’s how I believe. Validate anything that’s being done. Somebody said, Well, I don’t like that. Well, when you do, this is what’s wrong with that. Oh, then? Oh wow, that was cool. Yeah, they feel it. So the point is, you know, I’d love to hopefully people that might gets this and listening to this get a hold of me. I can’t. You can fellows have my email and if they want to know about my background backgrounds, fine. But you know, glitches. Let’s listen. It is what it is. But you know, you can go, Wow, look at all the things he’s done. You know, it’s like an NFL guy rolling up to me and he’s going to coach me and you just got of the league getting coached. Yet he’s lot coaching, folks. I don’t care if you play football, well, good for you. That doesn’t mean he’s a great coach or he really has great knowledge on a given subject. It’s not football. And there’s a lot of guys that’ll come into the speed world that just because they have a little resume behind them. People get all giddy about it

[00:51:32] Daniel Chamberlain Probably because they were naturally fast, right? I’m just going to transpose my speed onto you with this to help with this clinic right now.

[00:51:38] Dale Baskett My mentor had great dry humor is you go, Well, I’m into it right now. Jerry Rice can run all the hills he wants and, you know, sweetness that Chicago can do, all that he wants and they can all follow what he’s doing. He’s this is Jerry Rice because he’s Jerry Rice. Right, right? Yeah. So it’s mom and dad. He needs to think nobody else. All right.

[00:52:01] Daniel Chamberlain Well, we’re going to run out of time here before too long. I just want to cover the whys and the watts and whatnot. Guys, if you don’t have a speed coach, what you’re missing out on is the true fundamental speed, right? We’ve talked about how you can get in a weight room and you can increase the speed of your, your students, your athletes, but you’re going to do it in a way that’s not going to be as beneficial. It’s not you’re not going to get the results you can get by getting back to the fundamentals, working on the things that matter. You may even be wasting time because efficiency is the name of the game, right? We talk about 90-minute practice playing all the time. And if you’re not, if you’re having to stretch that 90 to 100 minutes, even just so you can get in some speed training, maybe you’re wasting your time. So efficiency is the key here. Both sides of the ball, you can see advantages of the speed, whether it’s the running back, carrying it out of the backfield. If you want to be a zone guy or even power, whatever, whether it’s the receiver and you’re an air raid guy and you just want your receivers to have breakaway speed. And defensively is, of course, where I go. I go defensive-minded and the ability to close on the ball right? And it doesn’t matter what system you’re in, it doesn’t matter what you’re playing. The ability to close on the ball and make a tackle. Getting there first is the key. You have to get there faster. It doesn’t matter how well you can tackle. So that’s your advantages that your why and what you’re looking for. The how is pretty simple the godfather of speed icon, right? That’s where you’re at. Dale, let’s get there. Talk to Dale. Get into his system so he can get you a real thing to coach on the basics, right? The fundamentals a Google search may not be your best friend here. Twitter may not be your best friend. This is a guy that’s proven a guy that can. He has the history. I know you said glitz is glitz, and your background may not matter, but truly it does. Because of what you mentioned. An NFL player coming out of the league who has all the speed wants to show me your speed coach, but he can’t. He can’t take his genetics and give them to your kids. So a guy that can just teach

[00:53:55] Dale Baskett You don’t get a resume without giving proof in the pudding somewhere along that 47-year trail, you’d have been washed out years ago. I’ve seen a million guys come and go, and that’s fine. But the bottom line for me is getting results and solutions create results, and they have to be accurate. And that’s the bottom line. I don’t ever get away from what we call part hole part. The part, the hole is the core of the science. The parts relate to it. And without those working together, then you’re out here working on stuff that doesn’t relate to the core. You never hit the mark. You just won’t. So everything we do has a relative part hole, part factor with it. And that’s why it makes it absolutely flawless. You’ll get results like Joe’s indicated because of that, because you’re going to stray from the core of the science of what a human has to be in positionally in order to function at high levels. Order to function fast. And then DeSalle excel change directions. It all has to be scientifically applied, but there’s so super easy nuances to keep those things in place. And then you go with the intensity and I will finish with this thought. A lot of people today are really. And I started with this earlier and I got away from it. Intensity is a big deal. Having the motor is a big deal and all that, and I didn’t finish my thought on that. My fall in that year intensity is good, but not if it isn’t in control. And this is where I’ve got kids coming out and saying goes harder. You can for eight yards and really get after. Then I’ll put a four year, four yards on right after you have them. So they can’t, they can’t decelerate. They just everything is go, Well, you’re going to overrun tackles, you’re going to miss blocks, you’re not going to be prepared to. Bring that velocity under control in a moment’s notice in order to what make a change? That’s what football requires, Joe am now, I write. You’ve got to go and then you’ve got to come under control again or whatever it is, it doesn’t matter. It’s all relative. That’s the nature of football. And what they’re doing now is they’re pushing the intensity so hard that guys are just but they’re out of control. At the end of that is the problem.

[00:56:01] Daniel Chamberlain We see overruns all the time. We talk about all time because if you’re especially your offensive guy, you just know what is it? The linebackers are going to over overrun, right? That’s what the boys

[00:56:10] Joe Daniel half of our coaching as our offensive system is, relies on linebackers overrunning plays right now in our run game.

[00:56:19] Daniel Chamberlain So you’re forced, guys way less efficient. What’s he doing if he’s overrunning everything? Well, coach, we’re going to kind of close it.

[00:56:28] Dale Baskett You’re not teaching how to control. They’re not teaching control. They’re not teaching Sekulic rhythms. There’s different patterns of speed. It’s not all fall out depends on what the assignment is. I mean, there’s some things you just you don’t want it to fall out yet. You want to get over here and then go. I mean, everything’s timing so many variables of movements and speed that it all comes down to controlling the intensity and the human body in motion and movement through every motion that there is and stuff. Oh, that’s a big jump. Yeah, it was for me. I’ve had to go through a lot of pain to get to what I have now boiled down to it. Easy, open the can and eat it and it’s real, tasty stuff. And Joe, probably back in the day, like you said, there was a lot of volume to it. It is a pretty sharp guy. I know he would pick that up. But my point is I really, really narrowed it down because you don’t have much window anymore to train, right? And that’s that’s sad and it’s an important element of but believe me, they will not miss the weight room and I’m not knocking that. You’re missing speed on, folks. I had coaches that, well, we can. We just can’t do the speed right now.

[00:57:33] Daniel Chamberlain I guess it was the start of doing all of it.

[00:57:38] Dale Baskett You know, oral want speed? Well, you ain’t going to get it in the weight room. So maybe a better part out those couple of days or we can get it figured out, pal. You know what I’m saying? In essence? Well, I’ve got some great stuff if there are some people listening. Obviously, you know,

[00:57:51] Daniel Chamberlain so if somebody needed to reach out to you today, if they wanted to contact you, what? What would be the best way? So we’ve talked about the website and then is there an email address or something they can reach out to you?

[00:58:00] Dale Baskett Not a very direct way to get me. Give my email post my email up.

[00:58:06] Daniel Chamberlain And you said your email was dbspeedt@hotmail.com

[00:58:13] Dale Baskett So OK.

[00:58:14] Daniel Chamberlain And that’ll be in the show. If you if you get in here that can understand it, whatever will have it in the show notes you can grab it there at JoeDanielFootball.com.

[00:58:23] Dale Baskett I’d be glad to just communicate with coaches that want to call and talk about things that might be good for them and look, try to get in their wallet and not looking for old guys. How about you bringing me in? I’m not fishing here. I want I generally at my age and seventy five, seventy six and I am not fishing for new new blood here. I’ve already seen it all. I want to help people do the right damn thing. And what’s out there is so much trash being taught and they mean well, but they don’t. They’re not very smart some, and they’re not helping kids become better. What hurts me is not maximizing what they could be. And that’s really what I’m trying to get to people these days. Absolutely. You bet it wants to call and just get some information. Talk to me about what you know. I would suggest they can do it after I’m open. I mean, that’s good. I’m not Mr. Commercial. It’s untouchable.

[00:59:11] Daniel Chamberlain So appreciate it, coach. We’ll have some guys reach out to you. I’m sure speed is always a topic in my area. I think we’re the slowest quarter of Oklahoma, so we definitely have people asking about speed. Joe, do you want to pay the bills here?

[00:59:25] Joe Daniel Yeah. So like I said, the whole purpose of this was the whole purpose of having Dale on again. We’ve learned I learned coaching speed. I’ve had so many people come to me and say, Hey, you know, we like what you do with, with offense, with defense, with JDFB weight room. Why don’t you have speed training? Because I don’t do speed trainings, because I went, you know, we went to dale years ago and our speed training is built on that and we still use it to this day. Different program. I’ve been in my third program since then, three different head coaches when I’m with me, but we’re still using it, still using it every day and not every day. We’re still using it with our players a couple of times a week that they need to to stay sharp. It still has the same effect every single season. And so this is so that I can. When those coaches come to me, I can say, Hey, this is this is where you go now. If you want the offensive and defensive systems, you want to go to JDFB Coaching Systems, you can go to JoeDanielFootball.com. Get access to the 4-2-5 defense, 33 stack, 4-3 defense, the 3-4 defense system and the pistol power offense system. They’re all there. You can get full access for one dollar by going to join. JoeDanielFootball.com, if this is your first time listening to The Football Coaching Podcast., make sure you subscribe, you won’t miss any future episodes. We have new episodes every single week. We are on pretty much everywhere Spotify, Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, iTunes. Wherever you’re looking for podcasts, you’re going to find the The Football Coaching Podcast. and as well if you’ve been listening for a while. Please leave a review in that place where you listen to podcasts because it’s a huge help in getting the word out. Twitter handles the annual

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[01:01:21] Daniel Chamberlain to need help. Well, you’re going to need this one. I can’t give you everything upfront. Then you’d be like, All right, you’re done after the season.

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[01:01:31] Daniel Chamberlain We’ve started trying to get some more stuff out there. A week ago or so, we started hitting a little harder. So hopefully you’re seeing some traffic on there, reach out. Talk to us on there leaving some comments. Whatever it is, man, just. Reach out. Talk to us

[01:01:47] Joe Daniel and deal anything else we’re at.

[01:01:50] Dale Baskett No other than appreciate you having me on board with you tonight. It’s been great. And of course, you know, I’m a big fan of your work as well.

[01:02:00] Joe Daniel Naturally, I certainly appreciate it.

[01:02:03] Dale Baskett And Daniel, earlier, you know, I said he was just starting to get this put together, and he’s done a great job. I mean, you service a lot of people’s needs and that’s really what drives you. Knowing that you’re giving out good product, good things to all those that can use it. And you know, there’s a lot of coaches down there and not all of them have the good stuff. And Joe has great stuff and has proven that. And that’s the bottom line proof in the pudding. Either you succeed or go on your body and you can’t fool people forever. That’s the deal the longer you go. That means there’s something good here. He wouldn’t be around and

[01:02:40] Joe Daniel I appreciate it. What drives me is getting people to come on the podcast and say nice things about me.

[01:02:48] Joe Daniel It’s working. So that’s going to do it for this episode before we go too much further off the rails. That’s going to be for this episode of The Football Coaching Podcast. Remember coach simple, play fast, win.